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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woot! I played a retro game, and the new board is lovely. Mrs. White with the dagger in the kitchen.

The character poses are pretty funny too. Especially fond of Mrs. Peacock with the fan, and I even like evil Plum flailing his cane. I'm not a huge fan of the different music. While it feels a little more classic, it lacks the sort of creeping mystery investigation vibe of the modern music.

Unless I'm not doing something right, it's kind of a bummer that you can't select the suspects for a game beyond choosing a full set of six players. I appreciate the ability mix and match whatever you want, but if I'm in the mood for a three player game, I'd like to be able to dictate who the non-controlled characters are as well.

Especially since my game seems to be defaulting to the classic suspects, which is all well in good. But they don't really 'go' with Doc Orchid, for example.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wow. They're giving it away for free!?

I'm slightly stunned by that. The characters is where the money is, not necessarily the skins, which are clearly yet to come.

And wait ... Is this a preview/promo game? What happened to Orchid? Are they going to switch it back to the new game and characters as the default at some point with a future update?

This is so strange.


Oh never mind ... LOL I see, I have to buy it. Clearly it is a promo app launch with the classic characters as the default launch screen ... I do wonder if the next update will change that, or whether the default launch screen is going to be determined by the last version of the game played.

EDIT: Launch screen NOT affected by the last game played. I wonder how Hasbro will feel about that if it persists past the add-on launch?

Not sure I'm thrilled about the price structure. So you can buy the classic board skin for $3.99, and the classic character pack for $5.99, or buy the bundle for $6.99?That would imply you can play the classic board with modern characters, if you don't buy the classic characters. At $2.99 a character the bundle is obviously the better deal.

So the new Mrs. white is only $1.99, as are the other 5 expansion characters, which they bill as part of the "International" pack, which is much cheaper at $4.99.

So if I buy it all, it will cost me $6.99 for the classic board and characters, and $4.99 for the International pack, for a total of $12. I wonder if they're going to offer that board/character combo for that price forever, or if that's just a promo introductory price? It's quite a bargain over buying them separately.

All things considered, with the original price of the game, for about the same price as the physical board game, I'm getting a lot more. I'm sure I will buy it buy the end of the day, but at the moment I'm being kind of cheap - haha

It's too bad they didn't deliver an expansion board, or expansion weapons yet. And considering the size of the option selection tabs, there won't be any seperate weapons, unless they're included in the Themes.

And I'm most curious as to whether the "bug" persists that allows US customers to switch into UK Cluedo with Rev. Green.

EDIT: YES!! Changing your Region Settings changes the game to Cluedo, and switches to Reverend Green, as well as Classic Reverend Green.

OOPS! Spoke to soon. It looks like it switches the game to Cluedo, with the REV GREEN launch screen, but that's as far as it goes.

Since I have not purchased REV GREEN, I don't get to play with him. My purchases only show "Mr. Green". Also, they appear to have fixed the modern "Mr. Green" from turning into "Reverend Green". Even though the cards are only labeled with "GREEN", the text inserted in the narratives seems ot be tied to the artwork, and lists "Mr. Green". So it looks like I will no longer be able to play with Reverend Green, unless I buy the official Cluedo App through the UK App Store. Since I purchased "Clue" in the US, I ONLY purchased "Mr. Green". Makes perfect sense.

What's really sad about this revelation is that I will never be able to play with Mr. Green and Rev. Green at the same time.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess this must just be a US thing at the mo.

EDIT: Never mind - I've just had a notification, and it's here Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PeachFreak wrote:
I'm not a huge fan of the different music. While it feels a little more classic, it lacks the sort of creeping mystery investigation vibe of the modern music.

Unless I'm not doing something right, it's kind of a bummer that you can't select the suspects for a game beyond choosing a full set of six players. I appreciate the ability mix and match whatever you want, but if I'm in the mood for a three player game, I'd like to be able to dictate who the non-controlled characters are as well.

Especially since my game seems to be defaulting to the classic suspects, which is all well in good. But they don't really 'go' with Doc Orchid, for example.


Well that didn't take long for me to buy it. LOL

I don't mind the "classical" piano music. It's a little more subdued though, and kind of lulls me to sleep. And actually, it's a little too sentimental and "romantic" in places for a murder/mystery game.

I don't think you're doing something right. I'm allowed to select any number of players I want. I just played a game with three players, with modern Mustard, classic Scarlett, and classic Peacock. Adding to your criticism though -- the fact that the weapons have not changed, the modern weapons do not match the look of the classic rooms and suspects really at all. Maybe if they changed the background of the cards they would better match?

I particularly like how the new pawns match the new artwork perfectly.

Sadly, the classic mansion matches the modern mansion floorplan layout exactly. No hallways added between the rooms, for those who were hoping for that.

The new animation approaching the mansion is cool, though it seems a little rough, and not as rich or detailed as the artwork for the new mansion. But I am a little perplexed when we're going to see the new modern alternate mansion design seen in the new character introductions. I guess just knowing it exists suggests there's hope for an MD expansion kind of layout coming, and not just a flashy new skin -- seriously, I can't imagine anyone wanting to buy what appears to simply be a similar makeover to the one that comes with the game, unless it also offers something additional, like extra rooms. And, what better way to offer additional weapons as part of a theme, that allows more rooms and suspects, and also weapons?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, I can still play a three or five player game. But if I play Orchid, for example, and choose modern Peacock and Mustard as my opponents, it subs in classic Scarlet, Green, and Plum as the additional suspects. I'd like the opportunity to choose my roster for the game, even if not every suspect is being played, if that makes sense. I did do a full game with all six ladies, though, which was pretty fun. Miss Peach's murder pose is pretty funny as well.

That's a good point about the classic/modern weapons. It's also a shame that the classic suspects don't get their own pawns, but it doesn't bother me as much, especially since Peacock never matched anyway. I'm happy the new characters got unique playing pieces, though. Rose and Orchid also have enough color distinction for the board.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh, I can still play a three or five player game. But if I play Orchid, for example, and choose modern Peacock and Mustard as my opponents, it subs in classic Scarlet, Green, and Plum as the additional suspects. I'd like the opportunity to choose my roster for the game, even if not every suspect is being played, if that makes sense. I did do a full game with all six ladies, though, which was pretty fun. Miss Peach's murder pose is pretty funny as well.

That's a good point about the classic/modern weapons. It's also a shame that the classic suspects don't get their own pawns, but it doesn't bother me as much, especially since Peacock never matched anyway. I'm happy the new characters got unique playing pieces, though. Rose and Orchid also have enough color distinction for the board.


My game does NOT do that. It defaults to a 3 person game. Regardless of what character I choose to represent me, it defaults to 2 other characters, which I can then dismiss with the little red X, then populate with whatever characters I want to play with up to the maximum of 6. For instance, I just played a game with Classic Mustard, Azure and Brunette. I could have added any other character I wanted, modern, classic, or International up to 6. Evidently the default behavior is to select the first two characters in order from top to bottom, after the character you have selected for yourself, for a default minimum 3 player game. Then you can dismiss them, and select your own, or keep them and continue adding characters up to 6.

The classic suspects do get their own pawns. Take a screen shot and enlarge it. Classic Mrs. White looks identical to her artwork.




Note too how rough this artwork looks compared to the original.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine defaults to a three player game as well. That's all fine. I can choose any combination of three, four, five, or six players. But I can't do a game featuring all six of the 'international' suspects unless it's a six player game and I select all of them, for example. I can't do a three player game featuring Brunette, Peach, and Gray with Rose, Azure, and White on the board. If I play Peach, choose Brunette and Gray as opponents, it then subs in the classics for the "non-controlled" suspects that I haven't selected as a player. Does that make sense? I'd love to be able to pick a 'cast,' no matter how many are actually playing the game.

Classic White seems to get her own pawn, but Peacock still has the long hair and short dress. Scarlet also has long hair and a long dress. Plum is still walking with his hands behind his back, etc.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mine defaults to a three player game as well. That's all fine. I can choose any combination of three, four, five, or six players. But I can't do a game featuring all six of the 'international' suspects unless it's a six player game and I select all of them, for example. I can't do a three player game featuring Brunette, Peach, and Gray with Rose, Azure, and White on the board. If I play Peach, choose Brunette and Gray as opponents, it then subs in the classics for the "non-controlled" suspects that I haven't selected as a player. Does that make sense? I'd love to be able to pick a 'cast,' no matter how many are actually playing the game.

Classic White seems to get her own pawn, but Peacock still has the long hair and short dress. Scarlet also has long hair and a long dress. Plum is still walking with his hands behind his back, etc.


Oh I see what you mean -- the OTHER SUSPECTS not assigned to a PLAYER. Right, if you don't select a 6 player game, the remaining suspects are assigned by the game itself. Hopefully that's something they will fine tune in the near future. I had not gotten that deep into gameplay. Guess you're stuck playing 6-player games if you want to control the suspect lineup for now ...

I see what you mean about Plum. Without seeing his face, I was going to say it didn't matter except Classic Plum walks with a cane. We can only assume they will address that in the future as well. That's supposed to be Classic Green in that picture, but he's way too thin ...

UPDATE -- Just found a new problem. Not only will I likely NEVER be able to play Mr. Green against Rev. Green, but it seems I am NOT allowed to play with two Mrs. Whites (even though they are very different characters), nor two Mr. Greens, Plums, Mustards, Scarletts, nor Peacocks. I suppose this makes sense as it would lead to confusion. But still, what a shame. It' be fun to imagine old maid Mrs. White being the modern White's mom, and something similar with Classic and modern Green, et al.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a bit bummed. Their Facebook announced the update for iOS and Android, but so far I've only been able to update the iOS version on my phone. Fine & dandy, but I'd like to see everything on a bigger screen (also, I got a Play Store gift card for my Birthday, and I'd prefer to do my suspect shopping with that instead of my real money through Apple).

It sounds, from the feedback here, like there's still some kinks to be ironed out. Especially regarding the pawns -- I can't believe they'd leave the new style pawns in place forever with the classic card art.

No sign of multiplayer, I guess? Suppose that makes sense. Better too roll out new features in stages rather than throw it out there at once & risk dealing with a boatload of bugs.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There doesn't appear to be a way to access the rules for the game anymore.

Also, I discovered when I updated the app on my iPad, that after restoring purchases, it did not recognize that I'd purchased the Classic game board, though it showed I had purchased the classic characters. I had to restore my purchases on the iPhone which had the correct purchases, and then restore the purchases again on the iPad before it showed the Classic board had been purchased. YOU DONT HAVE TO BUY IT AGAIN ON DIFFERENT DEVICES.

I reinstalled the App trying to restore my purchases on the iPad, and it did give me the instructional tutorials when I first launched it. But no way to access the instructions, or background of the game otherwise.
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That's odd. You mean they've removed the rules icon from the startup screen? I guess it makes sense, since if someone has just installed the app & gone through the tutorial, they wouldn't need the rules again. But surely there's someone out there who would appreciate a refresher.

Glad to hear the purchases eventually sync across devices, though not entirely surprised. I bought the Warning hint (don't judge me) through the iOS version ($1.99, cheaper than the Android version, which wants about $2.50 for the same feature) & have been able to use it on Android as well, Soo long as the app is signed in with my Facebook account.
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That's odd. You mean they've removed the rules icon from the startup screen? I guess it makes sense, since if someone has just installed the app & gone through the tutorial, they wouldn't need the rules again. But surely there's someone out there who would appreciate a refresher.

Glad to hear the purchases eventually sync across devices, though not entirely surprised. I bought the Warning hint (don't judge me) through the iOS version ($1.99, cheaper than the Android version, which wants about $2.50 for the same feature) & have been able to use it on Android as well, Soo long as the app is signed in with my Facebook account.


Ah interesting. If that's true then the App and all the purchased add-ons should likely sync up via Facebook too. I just went through a situation with IDW where they moved to a log-in system so that the IDW account itself could track purchases without the App Store since Apple doesn't share purchase information with the developer. Presumably this allows all purchases, regardless of platform to be associated with whatever device you're using. This suggests Clue will work the same way, even if the initial App has to be purchased for each platform. I'll be curious to see what happens when the Android version comes out for you.

And yes, the rules icon is gone. It's also weird, as the tutorial uses the modern characters, so for someone playing the Classic game their first time out, it's a little confusing ...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully they get the Android update pushed out soon. Their Facebook announcement still says "download now on iOS and Android," even though one of their social media people just told two of us the Android version isn't out yet...

It's not a holiday in the UK, so I really can't figure what their excuse is for such a sloppy announcement.
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I imagine it's a bug that'll be fixed, but is anyone having any trouble with the app closing when it attempts to load the home screen from the score screen after finishing a game?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jamie wrote:
I guess this must just be a US thing at the mo.

EDIT: Never mind - I've just had a notification, and it's here Smile


Will you post screenshots of the classic Reverend Green poses when you get a chance? Now that they've fixed the "bug" that let us access Reverend Green by just switching our Region Settings to the UK, we here in the US have no way to see him! (Even though they're likely identical to the Mr. Green artwork with a clerical collar)

I guess there are three of them: Accused, Murder Pose, and Guilty Pose. You'll have to win a game with Rev Green as the murderer for that one. I wonder if they will handle it the same way as modern Green, and classic Green's back will be to us, so that his clerical collar cannot be seen?

Thanks in advance ...

ALSO -- this "bug" has been reintroduced in this 1.3 update ... I just went back to my old iPhone with the Clue 1.0.4 version on it, and switching the Region to U.K. Does NOT enable Cluedo. I wonder when they fixed it, and I wonder when it broke again?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There should also be some new avatar/portrait art, if they've extended the "victory" and "defeat" expressions for your character (at the game's end) to the classic set, too.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first time I saw the Classic Board, I thought that they had replaced the conservatory with an indoor swimming pool.

Also, some of the new poses are ... interesting. Classic Mustard looks like he is sneezing into his arm. Curious that the suspects all brandish the weapons the same. Seeing them hold the rope the same way as the candlestick is equal parts terrifying and amusing.
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alwaysPeacock wrote:
No sign of multiplayer, I guess? Suppose that makes sense. Better too roll out new features in stages rather than throw it out there at once & risk dealing with a boatload of bugs.


I just received the following pop-up after a game: "Turn on push notifications? We'll tell you when you lose your top spot on a leaderboard, and about new updates (like MULTIPLAYER!)"

So ... looks like we have something to look forward to. At the click they roll out updates, we might have this option rather soon.

[Side question: how do I upload images to posts? I have been copying URLs for images, but how do I upload a screenshot? Thanks in advance.]
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anybody else having a bug where there is no music/sound playing at all? Also, the app crashes after I finish one game, and attempt to play another on classic mode.
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TheButlerButInnocent wrote:

[Side question: how do I upload images to posts? I have been copying URLs for images, but how do I upload a screenshot? Thanks in advance.]

There is no way to "upload" photos to this forum. You can only link to a URL. If you have a photo that is not already on the Internet, or doesn't have the correct URL format to work with the IMG tags ([img]/[/img]), you'll need to first upload it to the photo management site of your choice.
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