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Clue Movie Reboot

Post by MrGreenJeans » Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:40 am

The rumors are back. This one seems a little more substantial though (the rumor, not the quality of the film itself):

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Post by MrGreenJeans » Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:42 am

...although, upon reading the article, it sounds more like a new take on Clue versus a reboot.

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Post by Zoo977 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 2:10 pm

"And by the fan response?" How is there a fan response there are like ten of us that like Clue and none of us have said anything
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Post by Michael » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:18 pm

If dr orchid takes white's role, I give up.
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Post by Murder by Death » Thu Aug 18, 2016 12:47 am

Michael wrote:If dr orchid takes white's role, I give up.
Well the timing is interesting isn't it?

A newly announced game which isn't even available in the US yet, and then the report of the movie back in development at Fox?

Since Mrs. White isn't being replaced by Dr. orchid, there's a chance she could still be in the movie, but it seems like they're setting up Dr. orchid to be the main character in the film.

The new game is likely going to be around for the next 3 years which is what it will take to get this movie into the theaters.

It's also interesting that the game is back into a traditional house. Makes me wonder how it will fit into the overall film. Maybe something like CASINO ROYALE that had an international wrap-around story with a significant focus on a poker game in one location for a large central part of the movie.

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Post by MrGreenJeans » Fri Aug 19, 2016 10:11 am

I wonder if Dr. Orchid will be the Madeline Khan of the movie, whereas the character of Mrs. White will replace Yvette (i.e., still the maid...maybe sexualized... but the name will be Mrs. White not Yvette) ?

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Post by alwaysPeacock » Fri Aug 19, 2016 1:25 pm

Boo. Hiss. No.

I'd be perfectly happy to see another film based on Clue/Cluedo, but not the film Fox is describing.

I also wish the internet would learn what a "remake" really is.
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Post by Zoo977 » Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:48 pm

I mean, this is all speculation, you guys. I understand if you're angry about Dr. Orchid being introduced, and I get this might not be the kind of Clue movie you may want, but we know pretty much nothing about this movie. It's not a remake, which I like - the classic's good as is. I say we just hope for the best, and wait for new news whenever it comes.
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Post by Murder by Death » Sat Aug 20, 2016 1:21 pm

Zoo977 wrote:I mean, this is all speculation, you guys. I understand if you're angry about Dr. Orchid being introduced, and I get this might not be the kind of Clue movie you may want, but we know pretty much nothing about this movie. It's not a remake, which I like - the classic's good as is. I say we just hope for the best, and wait for new news whenever it comes.
This movie could go away just as easily as not. The fact no studio has yet to green light it means there's likely a problem with it. Add to the fact that there doesn't seem to be one creative force behind it driving it like John Landis who saw it through several writers until they got it right. This seems to be entirely pushed by Hasbro to get products on screen.

Also, Clue is very specific -- it's a murder mystery based on classic Agatha Christie novels like "And Then There Were None". Trying to turn it into anything else just doesn't make sense, it simply isn't clue.

That said, as long as they arrive at a secluded country house for a substantial part of the movie working out who among them might be a murderer, then I couldn't care less how they get there. Anything else, and it just isn't Clue.

As for Dr. Orchid, I don't disagree that Clue needs some more diversity to be appealing to a worldwide audience in terms of marketing a board game. Then again, that's what's appealing about regional variations and cross-branded editions. But it seems Hasbro wants to create a stable of stock characters that are universal in their appeal to make them more profitable and compelling without the regional variations or sharing the branding with established franchises.

Hasbro wants a franchise where its fans seek out the characters and editions they own 100%. Of course the irony is that they have one. Clue is a period film -- that's the appeal. When I was a kid, I didn't want to play Clue because the characters looked like me, it's because they were caracatures of people who were nothing like me. I couldn't care less what color their skin was, but they existed in a different time and place than anything in my life. What Hasbro has is their own DOWTON ABBEY, the foundation for which was laid years earlier. Trying to turn it into a modern day tentpole is a mistake. And trying to turn it into a franchise that has numerous spin offs and sequels doesn't really work for what is essentially a single murder mystery.

And that said, it could work. Imagine if Mr. Boddy had confessed to killing everyone, and got away, leaving everyone else locked in the house to die. They manage to get out on their own, get in their cars to leave vowing to never discuss it again. In the last scene, Boddy, in some tropical resort, has been tracking the others, realizing they didn't die. And he sets about blackmailing them again. A fun sequel of the clue suspects reuniting to work together to hunt down and "Get Boddy" might have been possible had the movie done better. Then a museum caper where their paths cross again, with more suspects like Miss Peach, etc. This could have gone on until audiences got tired of it.

So the same thing is possible here. But if they don't establish Clue for what it is at its core, an Agatha Christie murder mystery, then it doesn't matter how diverse the cast is, or how exciting their hijinks. It simply won't be Clue.

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Post by cluedoking123 » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:24 pm

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I will say...who ever picked this "dream cast" made them look VERY similar to the original movie.
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Post by Zoo977 » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:26 pm

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Zoo977 wrote:Y'all keep your Bendydink Crumpetsnаtches out of my good christian board game movies
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Post by cacums » Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:39 am

Tim Curry as Boddy would be fun!
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Post by BBP » Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:27 pm

Maybe, he's already in the Rocky Horror remake...

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Post by MrGreenJeans » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:00 am

new info on the movie! it looks like Ryan Reynolds is going to be tied to the project. unclear if this is a new theater movie, or a cable tv movie....or if it’s a direct remake of the ‘85 movie, or something new.

Reynolds is in talks to direct and / or star (role TBD).

https://nerdist.com/ryan-reynolds-clue- ... E%20Remake

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Post by Murder by Death » Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:47 am

MrGreenJeans wrote:new info on the movie! it looks like Ryan Reynolds is going to be tied to the project. unclear if this is a new theater movie, or a cable tv movie....or if it’s a direct remake of the ‘85 movie, or something new.

Reynolds is in talks to direct and / or star (role TBD).

https://nerdist.com/ryan-reynolds-clue- ... E%20Remake
Oh God. Well that just ruined it for me. I'm sure given the demographic of this forum, that most of the members will find this to be fantastic news, since the world seems to be in love with him for some reason, and he's generally considered to be the hottest man alive. But he's got to be one of my least favorite actors.

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Post by alwaysPeacock » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:20 pm

He's alright. Not a favorite, but also not z deal breaker when I'm debating seeing a movie he might be in.

One report I read suggests this will be a remake of the original movie, but none of the others have described it as such. If it's a new comedy mystery inspired by Clue/Cluedo, I'll be more excited. A direct remake simply won't work.

With Hasbro being involved in this production, though, I won't be surprised if Dr. Orchid finds her way to the screen with the others. Could be fun if they open it up beyond the core six anyway.
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Post by MrGreenJeans » Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:22 pm

Agreed that Ryan Reynolds in the movie is not a make-or-break for me. I don't feel strongly about him one way or another. What will be make-or-break will be the story and writing.

Agreed with you that a new take would be fantastic, but a simple redo of the original will not.

I would love for Orchid to be included....as long as it's not at the expense of Mrs. White's inclusion:)

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Post by Murder by Death » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:51 pm

Well one way to include Orchid, is to make Mrs. White appropriately the maid, replacing Yvette, and have Orchid take the Mrs. White role -- assuming it's a re-do.

That said, a re-do, doesn't have to recreate the original. They could re-tell the story, but update it. Instead of 3 different endings, one new ending that makes sense. Set it in modern times, or another time period. Instead of McCarthy and communism, Mueller and Russian collusion. THE THOMAS CROWN AFFAIR is an example where it's the same basic movie but the 1960s version is almost completely different from the 1990s version.

I'm not necessarily advocating for a re-make. But they could do it and I wouldn't mind as long as they aren't trying to just re-stage the original with different actors. That would never work.

I'm not sure how much say Hasbro has over any movie that gets made, especially if they're just licensing the property to someone else. So Mrs. Orchid may not even be a consideration for the filmmakers -- I know I would never make a Clue movie featuring Dr Orchid at this point. Maybe in 10-20 years after she's become part of the lexicon.

Whatever the movie is about, casting is an essential part of it. And Ryan Reynolds doesn't fit anywhere in the Clue world for me, and the only way to make him fit in my mind is to deviate significantly from the film we all hope they make. They kind of ruined Michael Chriton's TIMELINE for me with the casting -- I bring this up as I recently watched it again on cable, and I see Ryan Reynold's as TIMELINE's Paul Walker of Clue. But I suppose we all have our likes and dislikes when it comes to actors, and they can't please everyone.

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Post by alwaysPeacock » Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:36 am

But Hasbro isn't just licensing the property; their film division is also producing the movie. Depending on how much they're financially contributing to this, they could have substantial influence over the screenplay & final cut.

Which isn't necessarily a good thing. Last time Hasbro tried to put Clue on screens, we got that abandoned series on their (also abandoned) Hub Network.

Hopefully they'll just help finance it without any creative power. It does seem very likely, if this really gets off the ground & if Hasbro is directly involved, Dr. Orchid will be making an appearance. She's vaguely Asian, and Hollywood is still under a lot of pressure to diversify its casting opportunities.

It's unfortunate Orchid, as she's described in the game, is also about as stereotypically Asian as she can be. Since every Clue character is a stereotype, to some degree, maybe it won't matter.

None of that will matter if they just remake the original movie. Updated period & plot points wouldn't make it a good idea. If anything, that would just be a waste of time, and a massive missed opportunity to utilize the blank canvas the game offers, creatively.
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