Murder On The Orient Express 2017 Movie

Murder by Death · Forensics Supervisor Joined: 09 Oct 2009 Posts: 2452

This looks so good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI5dSBCymMI

I'm not wild about the Imagine Dragons song -- but it does work well, and should help draw a younger audience in that otherwise wouldn't be interested in this film ...

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cluedoking123 · Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 11:41 am Post subject:

my only qualm with this is Poirot's mustache. Otherwise it looks beautiful.
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alwaysPeacock · Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:23 pm Post subject:

I'm nervous, but excited-nervous. I don't think this story has ever been given an ideal screen adaptation, even in the Poirot series with Suchet at the helm. I hope there's some kind of twist in the story & ending, otherwise there's no point for most of the audience to be there.

And I'm the farthest thing from being a prude, but I've not been thrilled with the BBC's decision to inject as much sex as possible into their recent adaptations. Hopefully Branagh & Co. have a little more faith in the source material than the Beeb has displayed, in that regard.
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The 2nd official trailer of MOTOE at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mojQrEQpbSs

cluedoking123 · Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:06 pm Post subject:

oh wow. That looks a bit more action packed then the book haha
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cluedoking123 · Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:49 pm Post subject:

guys. I saw the movie and...it was...a thing....at one point Bouc is like "all you have to do is sit and use your little gray cells." and out of no where Poirot just starts yelling about that's not how being a detective works and thats not what he does and I'm like "KENNETH?! HAVE YOU EVER READ AN AGATHA CHRISTIE POIROT NOVEL?!" And at the very end of the movie they make a reference to Death on the Nile that is just....devastating. lol. It's very pretty and on a list of all the Orient Express movies that exist I rank this at number 2 (1 being the original movie with Albert Finny and Lauren Bacall).
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alwaysPeacock · Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:18 pm Post subject:

See, I can't stand the Albert Finney movie, so I was going into this hoping for anything better than that.

Mostly, I was pleased. Kenny's Poirot is not the Poirot as written by Christie (except here & there), and that's probably my biggest gripe with the film. Why does he carry around a photo of a lost love & pine over it at night? Why does he fly off the handle & start screaming at people? Why is he constantly outside, where it's cold & dirty (to open up the film, I know, but it's hardly Poirot's style)? I like Kenny B's work, but I think pulling double duty on this film proved nothing more than a vanity exercise. He should have stayed behind the camera this time, and let someone else try their hand at the Belgian detective.

The rest of the cast was fine, but nothing special. Nobody really WOW'd me, and only the Count & Countess felt underdeveloped & shoehorned into the story. I blame that on casting a renowned dancer instead of a properly trained actor as the Count.

I love how it was filmed. The long tracking shots. The overhead shots looking down into the compartments. Technically, it's very well done, and I'd enjoy watching it again just for eye candy.

I still think the David Suchet as Poirot version is the best filmed version of the story. This new cinematic film is...fine. It's got Christie back in the mainstream for a minute, and that's always fine by me.

As for the parting reference to Death On the Nile...I'll admit it got a chuckle from me. It's clunky, but fun. If Orient Express does well enough, perhaps we'll get a follow up Kenny Poirot adventure in a couple of years.

And let us all be grateful this film wasn't anywhere as bad as the 2001 TV version with Alfred Molina, available in all its contemporary "glory" HERE on YouTube.
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I also like the Suchet verison, though it had mixed reviews. It was definitely dark.
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Black · Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:19 pm Post subject:

clexit · Suspect Joined: 21 Nov 2017 Posts: 10

To explain what Poirot did in Curtain, Poirot had to have a "dilemma" beforehand.

MOTOE gave TPTB (at ITV) a way of Poirot questioning whether his belief in the law always delivered justice, etc.

People have criticised Suchet's version (which is fine) but I think those people forget that the MOTOE *episode* was also a catalyst for Poirot's thinking/actions in Curtain.

cluedoking123 · Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:58 pm Post subject:

See I don't mind the Suchet version but it just bugs me how much they changed (Mary's limp arm, Dr. Constentine's storyline, and a few other things.) It's not bad, but just some of the changes they made really irked me.
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CluedoKid · Con Artiste Joined: 24 Nov 2004 Posts: 17279

I did watch this at last. It wasn't as a good or creepy as 70's film. It wasn't bad, there were good lines, and overall I think it did justice to Agatha Christie, but it felt awfully slow, and definitely some questionable moments where characters do something weird for no reason. Also, there was too much focus on Poirot (and yes, his lost love interest was awkward and unneeded, as were so many other scenes) With such stellar faces like Penelope Cruz, Judi Dench and Derek Jacobi, you wonder why they ended up being so underused.

In regards to the creepiness, it was lacking. Tom Bateman and Johnny Depp acted like creeps sure, but were they trying to be artsy by giving that lingering overhead shot of outside the victim's cabin and NOT showing us the body until well mid-way into the film? Definitely not as startling as Richard Widmark's corpse reveal in the original.
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Black · Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:00 am Post subject:

Let's hope that Death On The Nile is a hit as well http://www.agathachristie.com/news/2017/20th-century-fox-confirm-their-next-christie-adaptation

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CluedoKid · Con Artiste Joined: 24 Nov 2004 Posts: 17279

For continuity sake, they may change some things due to the ending of MOTOE. I guess the person's already dead before Poirot gets there? Or maybe it's a death that precedes the death in the book.
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PeachFreak · Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:26 am Post subject:

I finally saw this movie, and I have to say, I mostly agree with the assessment others have offered. It was a beautiful film and a perfectly fine if not necessarily stellar adaptation of the story, but I'm hopeful that it's brought the classic murder mystery back into the mainstream. Although I could have done without his lost love, I didn't even completely mind the more "action-y" Poirot.

Maybe niche wistful thinking, but it'd be kind of a neat little reference if the "Death on the Nile" mentioned at the end of the film is the one from the Parker Pyne short story and Poirot stumbles on the end of it before getting wrapped up in the events of the full-length novel.
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