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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck. I hated that book, but that just might be me. I was too young to get most of what was happening. lol.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hehe, I put Fleming's first 4 books on hold.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if anyone here knows about Shakespeare's The Tempest, but the same theatre I did R+J with is putting that on-- and changed the main character, Prospero, into a girl! I don't know how the h*ll they'll pull it off.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prospera?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still, the main character is a role written for a man. I think audiences (who've read it/know about it at least) will not appreciate this move.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julie Taymor is making a film version of The Tempest and also changed Prospero into Prospera. It's a little odd, but I've never seen anything by her I didn't like, so I trust her.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's really alarmed me is that I have not heard of a single guy being involved in this play. So far I've heard only girls getting roles... Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a lighter note, I've just started Casino Royale...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you like it? Hopefully you're enjoying it more than I did.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's probably on purpose then. It's like doing Romeo and Juliet but switching all the genders or doing Othello but switching everyone's skin color or changing the setting of the story.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PeachFreak wrote:
How do you like it? Hopefully you're enjoying it more than I did.


I like it a lot so far! I was kind of suspicious how mindless action would be put onto paper, but I really like how it's being done. This isn't the mindless action of some James Bond movies, but an engaging and tense thriller.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I finished Casino Royale, and really loved it! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm reading Wuthering Heights by Emily Bronte right now for my Brit Lit class. We just finished Sense and Sense by Jane Austen, which was a snooze fest, so when we got WH, I was like not again.

But I love it, it's amazing! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PeachFreak wrote:
I also think it'd be worse if it focused more on the supernatural elements, considering the amount of plot holes behind the vampires already. However, my explanation of that would be full of spoilers, and I don't want to ruin the books for anyone.


I think I know what you mean: the ridiculous concept of sperm being perfectly viable despite being frozen in time for a hundred and seven years? Or Smeyer's explanation of how everything inside a vampire's body turns to venom, EXCEPT semen? The only explanation I would accept for that little detail would be magic because magic defies every rule of science. Smeyer scr*wed herself badly when she tried to explain it with science; if she had just said "magic" then I'd be okay with it since it IS fantasy, but if my biology teacher read Smeyer's explanation on it, she would lock herself up in her room and cry for a week.
Dear lord, if JK Rowling had tried to explain the world of Harry Potter with science...
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Meyer should've focused herself on the good-old fashioned "Bailey School Kids" rather than these pitiful books.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jane Poirot wrote:
PeachFreak wrote:
I also think it'd be worse if it focused more on the supernatural elements, considering the amount of plot holes behind the vampires already. However, my explanation of that would be full of spoilers, and I don't want to ruin the books for anyone.


I think I know what you mean: the ridiculous concept of sperm being perfectly viable despite being frozen in time for a hundred and seven years? Or Smeyer's explanation of how everything inside a vampire's body turns to venom, EXCEPT semen? The only explanation I would accept for that little detail would be magic because magic defies every rule of science. Smeyer scr*wed herself badly when she tried to explain it with science; if she had just said "magic" then I'd be okay with it since it IS fantasy, but if my biology teacher read Smeyer's explanation on it, she would lock herself up in her room and cry for a week.
Dear lord, if JK Rowling had tried to explain the world of Harry Potter with science...


According to Meyer, her Meyerpires' blood doesn't flow...How did Edward even...you know...Oh, never mind.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a story on Breaking Dawn:

http://www.cbc.ca/arts/books/story/2008/08/08/meyer-protest.html#socialcomments

As if that summary isn't bad enough, here are some of the comments (and my rebuttals):

"The whole anti-abortion thing is absolutely not a big deal. If you're pro-life, then you're happy, and if you're pro-choice, then STOP WHINING! The mother, Bella, MAKES her CHOICE and decides to keep the baby. GET OVER IT!"

Sweetie, the reason why pro-choice people are "WHINING" is because the anti-abortion message goes a little too far. If Bella wants to keep her baby, then fine; that's HER choice. But Bella wasn't pregnant with a regular baby; she was pregnant with a baby that was literally killing her from the inside. Is Stephanie Meyer trying to suggest that abortion should never, ever be acceptable, not even if the woman's life is in danger? I'm sorry, but I just can't "GET OVER" that little fact.

"GET OVER YOURSELVES! Bella's feelings for Edward were CLEARLY stated in the first three books, and did you REALLY expect that to change in this one!?"

What feelings? Feelings of lust? If that's what you mean, then no, I was not expecting that to change. But if you're talking about actual, emotional feelings for another person (and no, I don't mean willing to die for another person; I mean looking inside of them and seeing their intelligence, their wit, their sense of humour--or seriousness if that's what works for you), then yes, I was expecting that to change. As someone gets older, they realize there should be more to a person than their looks; they should also be able to recognize their great personality. You'd think we would hear Bella say, "Edward is just amazing when analyzing Shakespeare," or even, "Edward never fails to make me laugh". What do we hear instead? "Edward is so sparkly!"

"it just a story, if you don’t like it either don’t buy it &/or don’t read it!"

But wait...in order to judge if a story is good or not, wouldn't we have to buy it and read it first? Then again, I guess this does make sense in a way; there's no reason to torture ourselves if we don't like the Twilight series. But "don't buy it &/or don't read it"? So we would either have to shoplift it in order to read, or buy it and read it? Also, "it's just a story"? A story isn't just a story; it's something people enjoy reading. Agatha Christie is compelling because her stories feature an actual plot, her characters are more detailed and complex, and her romances are believable. Not only that, but a large majority of her female characters are strong, independent, and smart.

After reading how Twilight fans react to any slight criticism of their favourite series, I shall no longer complain about Hannah Montana fans.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I despise Twilight. I think that Meyer just got lucky. Her writing is terrible, her books have no substance whatsoever, the "love" relationships are quite clearly based on lust, and yet her writing is praised!!! I would like to sum up my thoughts with the following profane ejaculation: bullsh*t!

On a lighter note, I'm officially hooked on Ian Fleming. I've finished Live and Let Die, which was much better than the movie, surprisingly. I'm starting on Moonraker now.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

go_leafs_nation wrote:
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Hehe...ejaculation.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahehe... poor phrasing there, perhaps... Embarassed But it shall stay! Laughing
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