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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 4:17 am    Post subject: The Great Whodunnit (1973-1978) Topic!! Reply with quote

The Great Whodunnit (1973-1978) Topic:

This post will be edited as I uncover things about these series.

(The Youtube versions will all be deleted. I'll try and keep up if they're ever published again)

Episodes:

Pilot: who smacked the jewellery dealer in the head with a golf club?

Missing On Voyage: Woman missing from her cabin left a goodbye note, and a wide open porthole.

Knife In The Back: With Jon Pewtree (later host) in the panel and Nicholas Smith as one of the suspects. Who stabbed the spiritualist in the back?

Crime After A Fashion: Who shot the model Miranda? Features Edward Woodward stumbling and hurting himself.

Did He Fall Or Was He Pushed: Did plastic dealer Mr Hurst fall down the roof while fixing the TV aerial or was he offed?

Dead Likeness: Who murdered the actor Brian Maxwell in the sauna?

Happy New Year: Who hid the snake in the victim's safe?


The Last Act: On the set of the movie, a wife and her lover decide to poison her nasty husband - the actor playing the husband is really poisoned. Was it one of his co-actors, the director, the assistants?

It's Quicker By Train: A woman who's just won the pool is poisoned on the train. Was it her husband, brother, inlaw or an accidental murder by the couple on the other table? Features Richard O'Sullivan as panel member.

The Final Chapter: A WW2 author is about to unmask someone in his book, and pays for it by death. Who shot him?

Goodbye Sarge
During WW2, sergeant Morris is shot in the chest at short range. Was it a sniper or any of the privates?


The Art Of Theft: Who has stolen the priceless Renard painting?

Teddy Bear's Picnic: Who robbed and murdered a young woman during a costume party?

Portrait In Black: Who poisoned the photographer's coffee?

Final Drive: Who cut the racing driver Jimmy Baxter's brakes?

Pop Goes The Weasel: Who electrocuted the guitarist/singer of The Weasels?
With Richard O'Sullivan and Paula Wilcox on the panel


Evidence Of Death: Who killed the professor by putting toxic gas on the telephone?


Nothing To Declare: Who is trying to smuggle diamonds and emeralds from the airport? With Frank Thornton and Edward Sinclair (and references to both Are You Being Served and Dad's Army)

Death At The Top: Who murdered the president of a ballpoint pen factory?

Too Many Cooks: Who locked one of the hotel's chefs into the freezer?

Fly Me I'm Dead: Poisoning case on a plane filled with criminals...

Beware, Wet Paint: A TV channel owner is found on the set. The floor has been freshly painted but there are no footprints...

Dead Grass: At a bust of a gang that's dividing the loot from a robbery, a corpse is found - which gang member murdered Danny?

Future Imperfect
In 2076, the world is so crowded people can only take holiday simulations. Who replaced the Mallorca tape with a tiger attack simulation so the pater familias gets a fatal heart attack? Was it either one of his wives, one of his twin sons, his young daughter, his robot or the evil Chinese overlords?

Time To Dye: Lady Penelope is accidentally murdered during a robbery while she's getting a facepack...

Final Verdict: A group of people gathers together for a dinner party. At midnight the music box on the table opens, a cassette inside plays: a man reveals he has poisoned the caviar and all will die unless the group find out which one of the party he is.
With bodies dropping left and right, and with Richard O'Sullivan on the panel, this is a highly enjoyable episode!

A Bad Habit: A robbery in a monastery. With John Clegg as a suspect and Brian Murphy and Yootha Joyce on the panel.

A Deadly Tan: Who killed the dictator of a small Slavic country? Since everybody wants to be that hero, you'll have to pick the right murderer by seeing who's telling the truth, not by seeing who's lying.

Dead Ball - Deals with the poisoning of a football manager - unfortunately quality of this video is very poor.

The Rajah's Ruby - The ruby of the rajah is stolen. Has Perry Wogan and Prunella Scales in the panel.

Village Fate - At the dress rehearsal of an amateur play, one of the characters is really poisoned instead of fake poisoned. Has Trevor Bannister on the panel.

No Happy Returns - A manager's killed on his 70th birthday by a gun hidden in his cake.

The Q43 Experiment: A scientist is shot in his lab. The murder is caught on his tape recorder, but what can be heard on it? With Bill Wallis in the cast.

Last Tango In Tooting: At a company;s ballroom dancing competition, a man is poisoned by a needle in his shoe. Last of the series doesn't allow playback. With a young Vivienne Johnston.


All Part Of The Service
Which Eye, Jack?
Diamonds Are Almost Forever
Before Your Very Eyes
A Bad Sign
Adieu Monsieur Chips
A Safe Way To Die
Final Trumpet
Instant Coffee
A Dead Cert
Underneath The Archers
Which Way Did He Go?

A Piece Of Cake: 1974 christmas special
Anderson family has Christmas in the roaring 20s. The oldest son who got the full inheritance of a rich father is poisoned. Was it his brother, his sister, his wife or any of the inlaws?

Worth Dying For:
Right after signing a life insurance policy, a businessman is lured to the window by a phonecall and shot in the chest.



The exact format changes throughout the series but there are 3 to 4 celeb panel members who have to try and solve the mystery, plus there's one or more members of the audience getting a crack. Aside from the reenactment, panel members are allowed to see one scene again and are allowed to interrogate the suspects.


Of note: flashbacks can lie. And there may be more than one murderer, if there's a conspiracy all those involved should be named.



There was an American adaptation in 1979, and a Dutch adaptation in 1987.


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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 4:18 am    Post subject: . Reply with quote

About the Dutch adaptation - the scale of it is a lot more grand than the 30-min episodes of Thames Television. The TROS had host Ron Brandsteder in a major production, one-and-a-half hours long, with a panel of 3 celebs and 100 members in the audience playing along.
The 100 group had to answer questions about the case during the show - people who answered wrongly were eliminated and those who knew all questions got to pick a suspect. All 100 would win a prize, main prizes were a car and a luxury trip.
To be in the lucky 100, you had to send in a card, predicting the culprit of that week. Around 5 million cards would be sent in from Netherlands and Belgium every week - in a country with about 14 million people this amount is unheard of. Then again there only were only 2 or 3 TV channels here,so there wasn't much competition.
The shows start with the leader and the show ballet, then an extensive celeb introduction,then a scene, then the celebs and the quiz, then the show ballet, then the second part of the story, then the panel, then the quiz , then a song, third part of the story, panel and quiz, more song, then interrogation and flashback, audience vote and the denouement. It's a stretch but well worth watching some actors in their prime.

So what caused the show to be bust? The most likely scenario is finances, it was the flagship production, and combined with the negative publicity after the actor who played the first murder victim died in real life, there wasn't enough motivation to churn out another series.

One thing that differs from the original is that all shows have 1 culprit only.


There are 6 episodes:

-Gelukkig Nieuwjaar (Happy New Year) where millionaire Adriaan Lietaard, who just disinherited his kids and their spouses, is killed by his prized poison snake that has been hidden in his vault. He has 15 minutes to find out who did it: was it his brother Lodewijk, his deadbeat sons Paul or Martijn, or the wives of either one of them?
Features Lo van Hensbergen (millionaire, whose real-life death initiated the negative publicity), Ton Lensink,Bernard Droog, Josine van Dalsum...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IcfaRFgpyo

{Remake of Happy New Year, expanded to give the viewers a bit of a math sum. There are also points being made about the gloves and whether or not the killer would be able to reach the top of the stairs.}


-Flitsend en Fataal (Flashing and Fatal)
Who killed photographer Mabel de Ruiter with a crossbow? Was it her nephew, one of the models or special someone?
Features Gerard Cox, Willeke van Ammelrooy, Bruni Heinke, Aart Staartjes...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CKnSkpGshA

-Vermist Op Zee (Missing at Sea)
Suze Vrijland is missing - she left a goodbye-note in a locked room, the window to the outside is open, the chair is knocked over... But was it suicide or did something else happen?
Features Adriënne Kleiweg, Carol van Herwijnen...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAiGYpnZTw

{ This is a remake of Missing In Voyage that has been expanded: the woman Todd is making a pass at in the bar is an insurance agent who has a relationship with the husband of the missing woman, thus adding a not too unlikely suspect. All the same it's the one with the most correct answers of all the Moordspel episodes, and all the UK panel guests know it too.}


-Illusie Verstoord (Disturbed Illusion)
Prinses Tara, the magician's beautiful assistant, was stabbed during the conjuring trick. The safe/not-safe lights are switched. Was it the illusionist or his wife who wanted to stop her from walking out? The stage hands? Or the victim's husband?
Featuring Piet Römer, Liz Snoijink, Coen Flink...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tAqp6Kpumc

-Te Hard Akkoord (Too Loud Chord)
Who electrocuted singer Ricky Veenendaal? Was it the manager who had insured the band, the bassist who was keeping a secret, the drummer who walked off with Ricky's wife the synth player, or the roadie who set up the old amp from the van to add the fatal blow?
Features Peter Lusse, Frank Schaafsma, Maarten Spanjer...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi2KNAyJr3E

{
This appears to be a translation of Pop Goes The Weasel, but it's very different in that it changes the murderer, the weapon, the time of the murder and the motive:
SPOILER

The murder takes place during the concert, not during rehearsal; the weapon is an old amp that has been rerouted and put between the microphone and guitar, the keyboard player is married to the victim and has a relationship with the stoner drummer, while the bassist is being blackmailed by the victim over an accident he was involved in (and not allowed to speak about). There's only 1 lefthanded character, not 3 - the murder is not shown so we have to imply the lefthandedness of the murderer in another way.

}


-Riskant Roulette (Risky Roulette)
Who murdered casino owner Jules Charrier? Was it one of the gamblers whose credit wouldn't be extended? Was it his estranged daughter or the other callgirl?
Features Jules Croiset, Fred Butter, Rudi Falkenhagen, Bram van der Vlugt, Pieter Lutz, Sjoerd Pleijsier...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-1wIY_kYNI


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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember watching the fist episode of this not too long ago. Was it posted on here? It must have been on YouTube... anyway, I did think it was surprisingly well done but I just didn't have the time to invest in watching more.
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 9:02 am    Post subject: Re: The Great Whodunnit (1973-1978) Topic! Reply with quote

BBP wrote:
The Great Whodunnit (1973-1978) Topic:

This post will be edited as I uncover things about these series.


The exact format changes throughout the series but there are 3 to 4 celeb panel members who have to try and solve the mystery, plus there's one or more members of the audience getting a crack. Aside from the reenactment, panel members are allowed to see one scene again and are allowed to interrogate the suspects.

Of note: flashbacks can lie. And there may be more than one murderer, if there's a conspiracy all those involved should be named.



There was an American adaptation in 1979, and a Dutch adaptation in 1987.


Wait, what!? There was an American adaptation in 1979!?
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wait, what!? There was an American adaptation in 1979!?


Yes. I remember watching it. F. Lee Bailey was a panelist, as was Melvin Belli. Ed McMahon hosted. I can recall at least five actors who guest-starred: Loni Anderson, Rene Auberjonois, Claudette Nevins, Jack Bannon and a very young Michael Keaton.
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a fun series! I'm quite looking forward to seeing the John Pertwee hosted episodes, as I'm a big Doctor Who fan & always like seeing various Doctors & companions in other stories.

I did a little poking around & found a paylist on YouTube which has collected some 30ish episodes together. Not sure how these overlap with the links you've already posted, but here it is anyway for the interested: Whodunnit

And for anyone with a DVD/BD player capable of playing Region 2 DVDs, you can buy the first 5 series directly from the DVD production company HERE.

I liked this little nod to the Cluedo series in the description for the Whodunnit? series 1 set:

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The show’s brilliantly original formula, devised by comedians Lance Percival and Jeremy Lloyd (and revived in the 1990s for Cluedo), presented short dramas laden with clues to be pieced together by the panellists, who would then question the characters involved and finally point the finger at the most likely suspect; lively repartee was the order of the day.


Maybe one day we will get some kind of release for Cluedo, even if just on a streaming service. If this show can get cleared for a home media release, the same must be possible for Cluedo, if there's any interest...
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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2017 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I contacted NBC archives, but they won't release TV shows to private viewers.


This show sure is addicting! And mean!
I really enjoy it so much, although my lack of knowledge about English culture occasionally means I miss out on a clue. Especially great to see familiar faces like Richard O'Sullivan (he has some great banter about cherries in the Train episode - and that's being recalled when he and Paula Wilcox attempt Pop Goes The Weasel) and a singing Nicholas Smith.

There are some Dr Who references - there's a fun one in Knife In The Back for instance!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The links I'd posted here previously are now also deleted.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The final series and complete box set are being released on DVD here in the UK in October for those who are interested!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Whodunnit-Complete-DVD-Jon-Pertwee/dp/B073LWLB4M/ref=sr_1_2?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1500538730&sr=1-2&keywords=whodunnit
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woohoo! Thanks for the heads-up!

Off their producer's website it's about 20 pounds cheaper, so do yourself a favour and go there instead:
http://networkonair.com/search?controller=search&s=whodunnit
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