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Post by cacums » Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:19 am

I write down the main events of each episode on this little chart I made---

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I use this grid for both Episodes and Season Events (mainly the latter)

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Post by Jamie » Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:27 am

Adam106 wrote:
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Adam106 wrote:Well, I've set my mind to writing a whodunit. I have all the suspects planned out, and I think I have a certain person in mind to be the killer. It's going to take place in a quiet, countryside village, similar to that of Midsomer Murders. Of course, it isn't long before the body count piles up. :twisted:
Sounds great.

I was going to write a short whodunnit, got the whole thing planned - characters, locations, victims, murderer, motives, red herrings. Then got a virus on my pc and lost the lot :x
Oh, that is a really big shame. :( I plan to write mine in a notebook first, and then transfer it onto my laptop. I'm sorry to hear your unfortunate event. :(

Thanks, every so often I think about it and re-starting it all. Not at this time of year though, I usually get inspiration sat outside on warm summer evenings, or sat in bed on cold dark wintry nights.Maybe i'll give it another go, I can remember the motive, most of the charcters and the opening line and thats it lol.

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Post by Jane Poirot » Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:30 pm

What are some people's opinions of AUs in fanfiction?
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Post by cacums » Wed May 13, 2009 4:28 pm

One day the ideas are flowing nicely through my head and I try not to make the chapter too long. So I save the ideas for a later chapter... but when I want to use them... it doesn't fit in with the surroundings!

EXAMPLE (spoilers head!!!)*** Dr. Rose burned down his house! He did... but there was a 'deleted scene' in the 3rd Season that I was going to save until the forth where Mrs. Alabaster checks in on him after Mary was hit by a car... She was suppose to do her normal busybody, fishing for clues, for she was the other witness to the accident besides Mrs. G-C... Now it doesn't look like that will be happening since the Rose Estate is a pile of ashes... Oh and want to her my inconsistency? Where the heII was Mme. Rose at this time. She was staying at the Rose Estate during the prior incidents... perhaps I will make her be the mysterious person spying on the M-B's from the porch... I really didn't want her to be the person... but ah well! Mystery solved at the person spying on the M-B...*** (end of spoilers)

Ah well... If I've made it thus far without considering ending it... I think I'll make it through the next chapter...

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Post by cacums » Wed May 13, 2009 4:33 pm

MissScarletDidntDoIt wrote:[! I always spell it "definately." GRR!
Me too :lol:

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Post by Jane Poirot » Wed May 13, 2009 7:01 pm

For years I had difficulty with the word "restaurant". What finally snapped me out of it? When I saw the word on a sign in the movie Enchanted . Typical. :roll:
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Post by cacums » Wed May 13, 2009 7:08 pm

I learnt it in 3rd grade as

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was our hands from the faucet

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Post by Jane Poirot » Wed May 13, 2009 10:11 pm

I have a question for all authors: To you personally, what is the biggest trademark of a Mary Sue?
Everyone will most likely give a different answer, but to me, a Mary Sue is a character whom the reader cannot identify with on an emotional level. Someone who ALWAYS gets their way no matter what, and we all know real life just doesn't work that way; sometimes, the bad guy does win and they don't get karmic retribution until years later, we're not always looking our best everyday, love is often unrequited, we're not always right, and most of all, we're just not perfect.
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Post by PeachFreak » Wed May 13, 2009 10:25 pm

Well, you have to be careful about the whole Mary-Sue thing. Most of my original characters tend to be so pathetic, they're almost anti-Sues. That's not that great either...

Anyway, I see a "Mary-Sue" as exactly what you said. Also, I see it in other characters' reactions to that character. I can't stand it when somebody does something awful in a story, and BAM everybody forgives them and it's all better. Now, that might not be bad in certain stories. In Clue series, for instance, I actually find it amusing that nobody seems to particularly mind that a murder's occured.

Anyway, another thing that bugs is me is that "Mary-Sues" tend to angst and whine a lot. Now angsty characters aren;t bad, as long as they don't remind us how dark and depressed their soul is every two sentences.
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Post by Jane Poirot » Thu May 14, 2009 10:23 pm

What makes it really bad is when the Mary Sue's tragic background gives no weight to her character or the story. A particularly bad offender is this trope: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/M ... eadParents
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Post by Adam106 » Fri May 15, 2009 6:27 am

I don't usually make Mary-Sues. My characters are usually the complete opposite of myself, such as an old, pompous colonel, or a suave, slimy son. I suppose this is a kind of bad thing because what they say and do don't come to me as quickly. There may be the odd chance when a character may have a similar personality trait, but nothing so overly obvious.

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Post by Jane Poirot » Tue May 19, 2009 10:51 pm

I actually did create a deliberate Mary Sue in one of my stories, but it was a parody of how they tend to ruin a story, so does it really count? The only other time I deliberately created a Mary Sue was for an original story of mine that contains a story-within-a-story that, again done to make it absolutely horrible because the author behind the story is horrible.
Also, know what's frustrating? The time of the day where my creativity is at my strongest is the time I should be in bed. It's not much of a problem on Friday and Saturday nights, but it becomes a bit of a problem on school nights.
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Post by go_leafs_nation » Tue May 26, 2009 8:02 am

Funny how the most random things can prove to be inspiring. I was trying to pick out a book to read on my 3 hours on the bus today, when my eye caught sight of one of my favourite Agatha Christies. Long story short, I think I've found what I was looking for for my story...
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Post by cacums » Tue May 26, 2009 12:47 pm

I feel like an ***...

Just because I couldn't think of a good way to write a chapter I nearly abandoned TCA :roll:

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Post by PeachFreak » Tue May 26, 2009 3:11 pm

So, according to my cousin, I'm a sexist pig because I kill off twelve members of an almost entirely female cast in my most recent story. They go to an all-girl school. What did she expect? Furthermore, the various killers are all women...blame them.
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Post by cacums » Tue May 26, 2009 3:20 pm

PeachFreak wrote:So, according to my cousin, I'm a sexist pig because I kill off twelve members of an almost entirely female cast in my most recent story. They go to an all-girl school. What did she expect? Furthermore, the various killers are all women...blame them.
:roll: @ your cousin...

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Post by PeachFreak » Tue May 26, 2009 3:36 pm

And these girls put up a fight. It's not like I play on damsel in distress stereotypes. One of the various murderers gets pushed down the stairs, out a window, and off a balcony before claiming all her victims.
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Post by Jane Poirot » Tue May 26, 2009 5:15 pm

Personally, I think some feminists get a bit carried away when trying to stick up for women's rights. Like the ones who claim Shakespeare was sexist because of The Taming of the Shrew . :roll:
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Post by CluedoKid » Tue May 26, 2009 5:16 pm

Yeah. Shouldn't they be in the kitchen, making my sandwich by now?
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Post by Jane Poirot » Tue May 26, 2009 5:25 pm

But sandwiches are demeaning to women, so I'm going on strike! :evil:
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