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Post by Kristev » Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:34 pm

That's awful. I love having them named.

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Post by go_leafs_nation » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:00 pm

I don't know, there's always going to be some sort of problem to the naming, one name particularily inappropriate or unlikeable. And I find not naming them at all avoids this.
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Post by munitzer » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:27 pm

the only real issue that i have with that is that if there is any degree of comrodary amongst the suspects, i find it hard to believe that they go around calling each other Colonel Mustard and Mrs. Peacock and Mr. Green the whole time; it'd be stuffy and awkward, at least to me
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Post by cacums » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:33 pm

Even while writing who is talking... It would get boring to read---

"I went to the new spa." said Mrs. Peacock

"How was it?" asked Miss Scarlet

Mr. Green enter to see Miss Scarlet and Mrs. Peacock talking

"Hello." Mr. Green said gruffly, he remembered what Colonel Mustard had said to him earlier...


THEN USING NAMES---

"I went to the new spa." said Elizabeth Peacock

"How was it?" asked Vivienne

Thallo Green enter to see Vivienne and Elizabeth talking

"Hello." Thallo said gruffly, he remembered what the colonel had said to him earlier...

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Post by CluedoKid » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:18 am

cacums wrote:Even while writing who is talking... It would get boring to read---

"I went to the new spa." said Mrs. Peacock

"How was it?" asked Miss Scarlet

Mr. Green enter to see Miss Scarlet and Mrs. Peacock talking

"Hello." Mr. Green said gruffly, he remembered what Colonel Mustard had said to him earlier...


THEN USING NAMES---

"I went to the new spa." said Elizabeth Peacock

"How was it?" asked Vivienne

Thallo Green enter to see Vivienne and Elizabeth talking

"Hello." Thallo said gruffly, he remembered what the colonel had said to him earlier...

I disagree. I think the first passage sounds better and less scattered than the second. Here's why:


Seldom should they be so casually referred to when they are being presented to us. It reduces them really from the way we should know them as; Miss Scarlet, Colonel Mustard...etc, and not as Thallo, Vivienne..etc. Remember, we are not part of their social group, we are seeing them as suspects. Therefore, it should be treated as such.


But, when it's one character talking to another, thats when first names come in handy, since they are supposedly well acquainted with each other.
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Post by fendue » Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:12 am

Even though I voted yes, I'm having second thoughts about it. I made up my own names that I like:

Miss Vivienne Scarlet
Colonel Frank Mustard
Mrs. Blanche White (always gonna be Blanche)
Reverend Nathan Green
Mrs. Eleanor Peacock
Professor Albert Plum
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Post by CluedoKid » Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:16 pm

I like those names, with exception of Steve and Jamie.
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Post by fendue » Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:57 pm

I agree. I think their new names should be:

Miss Vivienne Scarlet
Colonel Reginald Mustard
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Post by Harlequin » Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:58 pm

I don't like Frank.
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Post by CluedoKid » Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:01 pm

Mustard ain't a janitor. Why not give him a name that's slightly over-the-top? Give it some gusto to show his pompousness.
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Post by Harlequin » Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:03 pm

Reginald? Algernon? Clifford?
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Post by fendue » Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:11 pm

Reginald..... I like that.

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Post by Lord Caspen » Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:37 pm

I agree with CluedoKid. First names are all very well, but they aren't a deal-breaker. I rather do think that, for the most part, all of the people would address each other by their last names. It's very ... Anglo-European, which is the tradition, above all else, that Clue is about.

True, the United States (if you wanted to base the story in the US), tends to be more informal. This is especially true in modern day, but that too is limited, especially in more prestigious circles and among people who are not actually close friends.


First names are cool, I think they help flesh out the idea for a character, or at least they can.

On the other hand, Mustard, Scarlet, White, Plum, Peacock, and Green are not people, now, they aren't even characters. They are archetypes all in and of themselves. An archetype has a very simple name: Hero, Soldier, Grandma, Rex. If all you want to do is tie into the Clue tradition At Large, then it's better to call them just by title and surname. It's only if you want to tell your story, your version of the story, that first names help shape things.
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Post by Adam106 » Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:16 am

Mrs. Diana Peacock
Colonel Reginald Mustard
Miss Sakura Scarlett
Professor William Plum
Mrs. Wendy White
Reverend Oliver Green

Those are the names I'm using for my current mystery series. I quite like them.

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Post by go_leafs_nation » Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:55 pm

Well, I've jumped on the bandwagon now, and decided to use first names for my newest season. So far, Episode 1 is shaping up really well! :)
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Post by SpiralHeart » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:30 am

I have no problems with most of the names. Exept Micheal Mustard it sounds a little plain to me.
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