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Post by Dr Proveditchu » Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:42 pm

The one thing I despise about Clue is the numerous never ending list of characters. Give me the original White compared to Brunette any day! I prefer the original characters.
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Post by Kristev » Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:47 pm

The originals are useful, in their place, but honestly, the new characters add more to the game. By the way, welcome to the forums.

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Post by go_leafs_nation » Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:03 pm

I like the original ones best, but I like the newer characters as well.
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Post by PeachFreak » Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:42 pm

Well, it wouldn't be Clue without the original characters, but the new characters add a greater challenge to the game. As if it wasn't evident, I prefer Miss Peach over the original characters. Though, Mrs. Peacock comes in a close second.

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Post by CluedoKid » Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:45 pm

I think M. Brunette fits in with the orginal cast quite nicely. All the Master Detective characters in fact seem to almost be up to par with them. It's the Clue Mysteries characters from the later editions that really fail to fit. Prince Azure, Lady Lavender, Rusty, Mrs. Meadow-Brook and Lord Grey (Ugh!).
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Post by Dr Proveditchu » Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:00 pm

I do like some newer characters. Including Peach. Thanks for the welcomes. Also, what I mean is that the original characters are the heart of the game. But the newer ones make it more exciting.
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Post by cacums » Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:20 pm

My favorite extra character is a tie between Mme. Mystique and M. Brunette :wink:

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Post by Jamie » Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:32 pm

I like the originals, plus Peach, Slate Grey and Capt. Brown. Dont like any of Rusty, Lavender, Azure, Meadow-Brook...and defintely hate Mystique and De'Ath.

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Post by Adam106 » Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:23 pm

Am I the only one who likes Mrs. Meadow-Brook? I think she's awesome. I also love Miss Peach and Madame Rose, usually be one of them when playing Master Detective.

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Post by CluedoKid » Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:00 pm

I wish Mrs. Meadow-Brook had been portrayed....differently. I see her more as an aging, faux-classy broad from the cheaper side of town. There's something about her name that rings pure pornographic sleaze. Can anybody else picture this, or am I a single minority?
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Post by go_leafs_nation » Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:10 pm

I don't know. But the way she is now kind of rivals Mrs. Peacock, I think...
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Post by Green » Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:24 pm

I like the original six, along with Miss Peach, M. Brunette, Mme. Rose, and Sgt. Gray. I wouldn't mind Mr. De'Ath and Mme. Mystique, but it's so clear that they're meant to be Brunette and Rose that I don't understand why they aren't. I would like them better if they had been properly named. As for as other characters like Azure, Meadow-Brook, Lavender... not interesting at all, in my opinion. Especially Rusty. He's probably my least favorite of all canon characters.

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Post by Dr Proveditchu » Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:29 pm

I hate Rusty.
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Eh

Post by Lord Caspen » Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:52 pm

I don't hate Rusty. Not a great choice, but one thing I like about it is that it addresses, 1) male servants, something heretofore never done in the way of suspects, and 2) the fact that such servants, at least by tradition, would only be referred to by a single name, though really it should be by the last name. For example, if his name were, say, "Mr. Rusty Waters," then he would be called "Waters," and not "Mr. Waters," and not "Rusty."


Not a fan of Lady Lavender at all, I like her a bit less than Rusty. I am really dubious about Prince Azure. It seems to me that he more or less must be a fraud, or else he catapults the game from being about simple country murder a la Agatha Christie, to high international intrigue, a la John Le Carre. Let's be careful how we approach our genre, shall we?


Mrs. Meadow-Brook, of the new characters, doesn't rankle me particularly, but I do agree she is unnecessary competition with Mrs. Peacock. I don't agree that she need be the cheap one. If she is at all cheap, then she is the cheap of the upper middle class, a sort of Molly Brown without as much money or genuine character.

On the other hand, with a hyphenated name, I'm tempted to reverse her with Mrs. Peacock for the role of grande dame. Meadow-Brook could be a saucier type: sly where Peacock was stiff, and pragmatic where Peacock was hidebound to tradition. Peacock could, in her own turn, be made the local, garrulous lady-with-a-cause. She's always the head of all the committees: library committee, dance committee, the save-our-old-church committee, etc. Educated, perhaps upper-crust-and-slumming or middle-crust-and-bullish, but altogether a hurricane force. Think late Margaret Rutherford, or think Mrs. Shin, the mayor's wife, from The Music Man.

To tell the truth, if one really wants to have a Mrs. Meadow-Brook, I think I'd prefer such a scenario -- she the sedate and crafty patrician, who occasionally butts heads with the indomitable middle class champion.



I think Lord Grey is ... okay, I suppose, but a little probelmatic. Grey is actually a noble family of some profound history in England. I don't know if they're still around, but they're a little touchy about such things there, and I think it would be in better taste if he weren't styled "Lord."
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Re: Eh

Post by CluedoKid » Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:22 pm

Lord Caspen wrote:
Not a fan of Lady Lavender at all, I like her a bit less than Rusty. I am really dubious about Prince Azure. It seems to me that he more or less must be a fraud, or else he catapults the game from being about simple country murder a la Agatha Christie, to high international intrigue, a la John Le Carre. Let's be careful how we approach our genre, shall we?

Let's compare Prince Azure to Prince Nikita Starloff from the 1945 And Then There Were None.

It seemed they were still able to achieve having an international prince with a bunch of more ordinary people, yet, still keep the Christie mystery feel.

Then again, he didn't seem to act like a real prince, did he?
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Ah

Post by Lord Caspen » Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:34 pm

Fair enough, CluedoKid.


Actually, the presence of a dispossessed Russian prince was, while stretching things a little, was not wholly implausible.


My concern is that Prince Azure seems to be portrayed as the actual monarch of an African country. Not horrific, I suppose, but a bit more of a stretch.


See, it was the habit, as I understand it, in Russia, for the czars to bestow mostly meaningless titles willy-nilly on even very remote kin. For Starloff to be called a "Prince," therefore, while important to him socially, really carried little or no weight diplomatically. (If he was even genuine, though I suspect, as fictional characters go, he was.)

Conversely, Prince Azure should have a posse of bodyguards (especially in a modern game), and his involvement in Boddy's death, even as a mere suspect, would necessarily be an international incident of some kind.
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Post by munitzer » Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:46 pm

i have voiced my opinion of the meadow-brooks several time, but i have decided that i should come to the defense of mrs meadow-brook again; i, personally, have found her as an extremely good addition to the list of clue characters; newton said that every force has an equal and opposite opposing force, thus i find mrs meadow-brook as a necessary addition in reference to mrs peacock; the two of them, i see, play out a bloodless rivalry between the two frought more with subtle attacks, gossip, and feminine wit rather than rope and revolvers; i think that after decades of having mrs peacock monopolize the "grand dame" title, having another woman of high society adds both to her character and the feel of the game; it is no secret that i envision clue as being the events unfolding within the upper class, thus having two women of high standing, immense wealth, and total arrogance is a basic necessity rather than a creative addition ... as for her last name, i think that establishes her as an honorable character, since, in my opinion, a hypenated name denotes some form of a dramatic history, even if it is her husband's

as for rusty, i have found him another addition that is worthwhile to the game; after decades of mrs white monopolizing the staff at tudor mansion or tudor hall or boddy mannor or any name which you choose to give the scene of the crime, i think that rusty is a good addition to the suspects; yes, there have been butlers, but never as a suspect; with clue fx, including the gardener as a suspect i think was most appropriate

as for lady lavender, lord gray, prince azure ... eat them as you like

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Post by cacums » Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:51 pm

Am I the only one who has pity for Madame Mystique, Mr. De'Ath, and Inspector Grey? :(

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Post by CluedoKid » Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:55 pm

There's nothing wrong with Inspector Grey cacums.


However, is it so hard to have given the other two colour last names, therefore, not breaking the set pattern? It's so jarring.

Christ, it should be Mme. Rose and Mr. Brown.
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Post by Niteshade007 » Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:07 pm

I don't have any problem with Meadow-Brook or Rusty. Meadow-Brook seems to be the first to really work as a guest of the host. For some reason, I have a hard time picturing the victim inviting some of the other suspects we've gotten (Brunette, Gray, Rose). But I can see Meadow-Brook walking around the mansion.

Rusty is interesting because he's a servant, but more of an outdoor one. He's not a butler, he's not a cook, he's a gardener, and it lets us know that poor Mrs. White isn't doing everything around the mansion.

Azure, Lavender, and Lord Grey are terrible. Lord Grey is just so incredibly bland, and just doesn't give off any air of sophistication. Lavender would have been alright, had we not found out she was a botanist. That Clue Mysteries game really ruined a character that could have been filled with such mystery. I agree with Lord Caspen, Prince Azure just doesn't work as a prince. Lord Azure, maybe. Sir Azure, sure. But Prince? Actually royalty? Not so much.

I like the idea behind Mr. De'Ath, although I prefer the Passport to Murder card. He seems like he would fit in nicely with the Clue cast. A debonair bachelor, kind of the Mr. Green type from the computer game. I dislike De'Ath as a his last name, especially given that he doesn't die.

I don't mind the last name Mystique for a psychic, but if all the others are colors, shouldn't she be as well?

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